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If There Is No God, Murder Isn't Wrong

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If there is no God, murder isn't wrong. You may think it's wrong, but how do you know it's wrong? As Dennis Prager explains, without God, all morality is mere opinion. Donate today to PragerU! http://l.prageru.com/2ylo1Yt Have you taken the pledge for school choice? Click here! http://www.schoolchoicenow.com Joining PragerU is free! Sign up now to get all our videos as soon as they're released. http://prageru.com/signup Download Pragerpedia on your iPhone or Android! Thousands of sources and facts at your fingertips. iPhone: http://l.prageru.com/2dlsnbG Android: http://l.prageru.com/2dlsS5e Join Prager United to get new swag every quarter, exclusive early access to our videos, and an annual TownHall phone call with Dennis Prager! http://l.prageru.com/2c9n6ys Join PragerU's text list to have these videos, free merchandise giveaways and breaking announcements sent directly to your phone! https://optin.mobiniti.com/prageru Do you shop on Amazon? Click https://smile.amazon.com and a percentage of every Amazon purchase will be donated to PragerU. Same great products. Same low price. Shopping made meaningful. VISIT PragerU! https://www.prageru.com FOLLOW us! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prageru Twitter: https://twitter.com/prageru Instagram: https://instagram.com/prageru/ PragerU is on Snapchat! JOIN PragerFORCE! For Students: http://l.prageru.com/29SgPaX JOIN our Educators Network! http://l.prageru.com/2c8vsff Script: Do you believe that good and evil exist? The answer to this question separates Judeo-Christian values from secular values. Let me offer the clearest possible example: murder. Is murder wrong? Is it evil? Nearly everyone would answer yes. But now I’ll pose a much harder question: How do you know? I am sure that you think that murder is wrong. But how do you know? If I asked you how you know that that the earth is round, you would show me photographs from outer space, or offer me measurable data. But what photographs could you show, what measurements could you provide, that prove that murder or rape or theft is wrong? The fact is...you can’t. There are scientific facts, but without God there are no moral facts. In a secular world, there can only be opinions about morality. They may be personal opinions or society’s opinion. But only opinions. Every atheist philosopher I have read or debated on this subject has acknowledged that if there is no God, there is no objective morality. Judeo-Christian values are predicated on the existence of a God of morality. In other words, only if there is a God who says murder is wrong, is murder wrong. Otherwise, all morality is opinion. The entire Western world – what we call Western Civilization – is based on this understanding. Now, let me make two things clear. First, this doesn't mean that if you don't believe in God, you can’t be a good person. There are plenty of kind and moral individuals who don’t believe in God and Judeo-Christian values. But the existence of these good people has nothing – nothing – to do with the question of whether good and evil really exist if there is no God. Second, there have been plenty of people who believed in God who were not good people; indeed, more than a few have been evil – and have even committed evil in God’s name. The existence of God doesn't ensure people will do good. I wish it did. The existence of God only ensures that good and evil objectively exist and are not merely opinions. Without God, we therefore end up with what is known as moral relativism – meaning that morality is not absolute, but only relative to the individual or to the society. Without God, the words “good” and “evil” are just another way of saying “I like” and “I don’t like.” If there is no God, the statement “Murder is evil” is the same as the statement “I don't like murder.” Now, many will argue that you don't need moral absolutes; people won’t murder because they don't want to be murdered. But that argument is just wishful thinking. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao didn’t want to be murdered, but that hardly stopped them from murdering about a hundred million people. It is not a coincidence that the rejection of Judeo-Christian values in the Western world – by Nazism and Communism – led to the murder of all these innocent people. It is also not a coincidence that the first societies in the world to abolish slavery – an institution that existed in every known society in human history – were Western societies rooted in Judeo-Christian values. And so were the first societies to affirm universal human rights; to emancipate women; and to proclaim the value of liberty. For the complete script, visit https://www.prageru.com/videos/if-there-no-god-murder-isnt-wrong
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Jessica Miller (7 hours ago)
I don't like war but does that make war wrong? I don't like slavery but does that make slavery wrong?
Warrior Voices (7 hours ago)
Ah, yes. Murder, taking somebodies life and destroying their families life. Causing emotional pain, and sadness. Not evil at all. Not bad at ALL.
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Killing babies is good and moral, god say so, so it must be true right?! Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones. Deuteronomy 2:34 utterly destroyed the men and the women and the little ones. Deuteronomy 28:53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. I Samuel 15:3 slay both man and woman, infant and suckling. 2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child. 2 Kings 15:16 all the women therein that were with child he ripped up. Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished. Isaiah 13:18 They shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children. Lamentations 2:20 Shall the women eat their fruit, and children. Ezekiel 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children. Hosea 9:14 give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. Psalm 137:9 "blessed is he who dashes babies against a rock"
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Wow that is rare. A christian who makes such a shitty video and do not deactivate comments. Very brave.  Ok, so what if god (like he did in 2.kings2) would say that we should slaughter children and all their friends when some of them call a bold men "boldy"? Is it then good and morally correct to do so? If we have a man, let´s call him Abraham, who is going to kill his son because of the voices in his head, should we let him do that? when god say that it is ok to have slaves and to torture them, as long they survive a day or two, (Ex21,20) is that how we know what is moral and what is not?
David Dorante (1 day ago)
U know why I like Ben Shapiro Because God isn't his argument
Ben Shapiro (1 day ago)
Facts > Feelings
Ernie Rivera (1 day ago)
Clearly he has no idea what he is talking about.
TheDabbingDog45 (1 day ago)
Who liked this,?
beepy bopbop (1 day ago)
yes because there is NO OTHER RELIGION and there is NO SUCH THING as morals without any God ya know
David E (2 days ago)
It seems to me that in order for morality to exist, a conscious being is required. Why? Because only conscious beings have the capacity to appreciate and make value judgements. It also seems to me that in order for an eternal, universal, and changeless morality to exist, it must come from an eternal, universal, and changeless transcendent conscious being(God).
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
And this god is this petty,unjust,unforgiving control-freak;a vindictive,bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser;a misogynistic.homophobic,racist,filicidal,pestilential.megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic,capriciously malevolent bully, from the bible?
Millennial Madness (2 days ago)
This video was rough. Read “Mere Christianity” by C.S. Lewis if you want to see the correlation between morality and a god.
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Sure why not, if you are able to name a single valid argument from that book?
Masta2Playa (2 days ago)
Says that he don't understand people who are against death penalty and then says that it is absolute that murder is wrong
bastiaan0741 (2 days ago)
Murder is wrong because of natural selection. Humans like to stay strong in groups. Humans like to care for their children. We got that from the caveman. Every person is capable of murder because of natural selection, to take out a threat. We got that from the caveman. People believe in God because they can't explain certain issues. We got that from the caveman. Capability to murder has nothing to do with God.
Martin Hulik (2 days ago)
I'm glad that I live in almost atheist/agnostic country where if someone put such statement publicly would by considered as an extremist and not taken seriously by most people.
ganeshrvgk (2 days ago)
Dumb
Geraldo Cupertino (2 days ago)
E continua correta a argumentação se pensarmos como Santo Agostinho - de que o mal é ausência do Bem. Continua sendo um referencial excelente sobre o que é bem e o que é mal. Bem sendo até mais do que apenas referência , mas fundamento do Ser. O bem é fundamento de possibilidade de persistência do ser (minúsculo - ente) por participar (metéxis) do Bem. Os entes do mundo são mistura de ser e de não-ser, como disse Platão e Agostinho assinaria embaixo - o mundo, o mundano, é o estado de QUEDA, como bem vai retomar e revalidar e iluminar essa ideia, o brilhante Pascal, e Kierkegaard retomará na melhor parte de sua filosofia (infelizmente, não em toda ela). A questão prática é - é preciso crer em Deus, senão, nada tem sentido, e tudo é relativizado. Como disse Frakl, o que sustenta a vida humana, a faz persistir, não é luta de classes, ganância (capitalismo selvagem) ou inveja (socialismo) - as duas faces do materialismo, mas a capacidade de ter presente uma referência forte de SENTIDO para a vida . Aquilo que Kant quis dizer, em um de seus melhores momentos - acima de mim as estrelas e dentro de mim, o senso inato do que é errado , minha consciência moral. Além do mundo, existe sim, possibilidade de uma referência absoluta; apenas não podemos perder de vista que nenhuma representação humana é capaz de esgotá-la. E isso É bom - nos mantém no saudável caminho estreito da humildade do ego, que se entende como sendo a projeção que fazemos de nós mesmos e não nosso verdadeiro ser, a origem de todas as representações, a pedra fundamental da caverna de PLATÃO. Repetindo são Paulo - Deus é o Ser do nosso ser, análogo ao que Shankaracharya diz - atmã é igual a Brahman.
Soren van Loben Sels (2 days ago)
About slavery, What of the Zoro astrians
Reyujein 47 (3 days ago)
This argument is dumb as hell the reason you know why stuff like murder is bad is because you a robbing something or someone of there personal believes and or values dreams, ambition,goals, morality all gone by destroying the sanity or the body of a unlucky Individual
Dark-Fox (3 days ago)
Im not even an athiest but this is really flawed logic Morality is subjective wether we like to admit it or not. It sucks but we have to accept reality is indiffrent to our emotions. Our sense of morality stems from our ability to feel empathy and our sense of fairness. If i preform some type of neurological surgery and take away your empathy, you have no morals because its now impossible for you to understand or relate to another persons suffering and their consquences caused by your actions. Not to mention even with god or gods morality would then just be their subjective view. Being all powerful is irrelevant, because creation implies intent, intent emplies conciousness, and with conciousness comes a subjective view based upon your experiences and emotion. There is no shame in following man made doctrine. We've arrived at our current system through decades of experimenting what is benefical and destructive for civilization and social cohesion. Philosiphy and other unnatural constructs of our neurobiology are what helps seperate us from savages and allows us to aim higher. Dont disregard something simply because its not inate and natural from a higher source. Its wrong because it undermines what we've worked so long and hard to achive.
Harold D Burke (3 days ago)
It is wrong as defined by Society. There may not be an absolute good or evil except what we decide is good and evil. And we decide murder is wrong and Evil. And there is moral in that. But not necessarily absolute but enough for the individual. But don't get me wrong I do believe in God
Kenny Rosas-Mondragon (4 days ago)
ಠ_ಠ Mortality always been relative to the society.
morality is not only opinion. its something that is inside all people. it was placed in our heart.
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
What is "placed in your heart" about killing girls that have sex before marriage, gays, witches, unbehaving chidren or people that work on the sabbath?
Angela Dankulich (4 days ago)
I am going to respond to all the lower comments I have seen. There is no ill intent to what I am going to say, and if anyone finds anger in reading it, look in the mirror and ask yourself why your angry, maybe it is because I hit on something, and struck a nerve. I will not promote myself to be a Biblical Scholar, or a life long Christian. I am covered in tatts, I have the most collective of belief structure, and I respect ALL people, and give the ABSOLUTE respect and value to their opinions, and the way they believe. This is the way we should all be, we want respect, then show it. Now, this video was very well done. This man PASSED NO JUDGEMENT, he gave NO PERSONAL opinion, he just presented a question, and answered it. So many responses here are closed minded and shallow, as they are ignorant to what was said, and the responses were based on the "fact of murder", and "murder" was not the topic of this case, it was "morals" and "values", as they pertain to "murder", so you all responded to the incorrect message, then personally attacked this man, his intelligence, and also attacked the Bible. It was so misplaced that your negative feedback, actually is reducing in your moral and comprehension worth. I know this is a very uncomfortable topic, and we all know, we will kill if we have too, to deny this is to make an out right lie. I Love My God, He is Good, He never told us, "Do Not Kill", while this is in the 10 Commandments, yes. He is NOT saying this as a make or break to Heaven. He is telling us, use judgement, do not harm freely, you have to take time to understand something this important before making a comment, with a closed mind. Again, we will all protect our loved ones, at all cost, and if it means taking one, so be it. I will stand up first, and loud and proud, and say, I am a Christian, I Love my God, and....I will kill someone, if I have to. Please, rewatch this video, and listen to the purpose and this message, it is not about "Murder", it is a message about understanding the moral code.
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
And all that white noise is evidence for the god of the bible, how again? The god of the bible is the evilest bastard in all fiction, a petty,unjust,unforgiving control-freak;a vindictive,bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser;a misogynistic.homophobic,racist,filicidal,pestilential.megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic,capriciously malevolent bully. What do your morals tell you for example about the following bibleverses? Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones. Deuteronomy 2:34 utterly destroyed the men and the women and the little ones. Deuteronomy 28:53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. I Samuel 15:3 slay both man and woman, infant and suckling. 2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child. 2 Kings 15:16 all the women therein that were with child he ripped up. Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished. Isaiah 13:18 They shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children. Lamentations 2:20 Shall the women eat their fruit, and children. Ezekiel 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children. Hosea 9:14 give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. Psalm 137:9 "blessed is he who dashes babies against a rock"
godonlyknows13 (5 days ago)
I know murder is wrong b/c it hurts people. The damaging effects of such an action are deep far reaching. I know murder is wrong b/c it is contrary to the well being of one or more emotional and sentient lifeforms. End of discussion.
Superman and Kiaski (5 days ago)
Murder isn't wrong because every human being dies eventually anyways.
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Congratulations, that was the dumbest argument i have ever heard. Your house will also be destroyed one day, so why do you not give it away now?
Trev W plays (6 days ago)
But god isn’t real! 😂🤣😂🤣
Paul Aagam (6 days ago)
Lmao remember when the Bible was used to justify slavery?
Stephen Giad (6 days ago)
Thank you PragerU for having the courage to allow comments on this video. It is very brave of you. You had better hope that people don't actually know much about God, or read the Bible because for those of us who do, we know that God is The Most immoral being ever imagined. Your "loving" god condoned, ordered and perpetrated murder on a scale more massive and heartless than any mere mortal could possibly perpetrate. And that is just murder. Mention any other evil deed and your horrible god is the leader of the pack: rape, genocide, sex slavery, eating of one's own children, human sacrifice, starvation, disease, incest, child sacrifice, and on and on and on. If you are getting your morality from god, then I hope you don't know god very well.
MintyBadger 99 (6 days ago)
There’s only two things I don’t agree with Prager. His love for the terrorist Winston Churchill and his views on religion
K광대 (7 days ago)
...^^ 언어적유희를위한 개소리냐? 니가 살인한번해보면 본능적인 깨달음이 생길거다
Rickmarine1 (7 days ago)
You don’t need the idea of a God to know that murder, rape, theft are morally wrong. People know it’s bad to harm others, it’s simple.
Lee Wardle (7 days ago)
Morality is just an opinion and if you disagree with my opinion you are literally Hitler:- Marx believer on post modernist morality.
Matthew Ramada (7 days ago)
Man, China abolished slavery (admittedly for only the first time) in NINE A.D. Like, before Jesus finished puberty. "Judeo-Christian values," okay, sure, Mr. "We had the Crusades, the Inquisition AND Conquistadors."
Stephen Giad (6 days ago)
PragerU is so silly to bring up slavery when slavery is condoned throughout the Bible. So, where is the "objective" morality? Is slavery wrong or right? If you read the Bible, it is clearly okay. If you use your mind, you know slavery is "objectively" wrong because it hurts one group of people simply to enrich another.
George1234 (8 days ago)
Here I have a secular reason for you. We don't want any of this stuff to happen to us, therefor, we understand that no one wants this to happen to them. This is an evolutionary device called mirror neurons which allows us to imagine ourselves in the place of others and thereby find something to be wrong. Also stop using terms like good and evil they are childish terms that can mean whatever you want them to, they are more subjective than morals!
Griffin Kristal (8 days ago)
Finally! The only Prager-U video I could find where there are more dislikes than likes!
Jelone L (8 days ago)
Yes Christians kill people in history and also Stole the people's beliefs and changed it around for their own to make their Tradition Holidays there made up Christan way So there religion can Seem Real when it's Not Obviously.
Jelone L (8 days ago)
Actually Christians killed People in history like Native Americans and lots of women children as well. and the Salem Trial Christians killed Christians. And falsely Accused people Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. and lots of innocent people and Also killed pagans. The list goes on just murder after murder I guess that's holy
Jelone L (8 days ago)
Actually it says Thou shalt not kill then gives permission to kill Through out The Bible. so it's a Hypocrite book. And is made up obviously
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Yeah funny isn´t it. The first thing moses did after he brought back the commandments was to slaughter 3000 of his own people for having a party and dancing around a fire.
Toshi Ken Millevo (8 days ago)
"Believe in God; believe that he is, and that he created all things, both in heaven and in earth; believe that he has all wisdom, and all power, both in heaven and in earth; believe that man doth not comprehend all the things which the Lord can comprehend. And again, believe that ye must repent of your sins and forsake them, and humble yourselves before God; and ask in sincerity of heart that he would forgive you; and now, if you believe all these things see that ye do them." (Mosiah 4:9-10) The Book Of Mormon - Another Testament of Jesus Christ With all the energy of my heart, I testify to each of you that there is a God above, and THAT HE LIVES! Therefore, believe in Him, repent of your sins, and harden not your hearts.
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Sorry toshi, but for rational people, it´s impossible to believe in your god as long you theists are not able to present any proof, evidence or at least a single rational argument.
Alex Auman (8 days ago)
Ahh, but with God being the ultimate guide you end up in paradoxical situations. What if God said murder was right? What would you then do? And more majorly, if humans can't develop their own morals, how do they know that God himself is right that murder is wrong?
mrgerminaro (9 days ago)
and at least 2 out of those 3 dictators were atheist, shocker. nothing but empty husks . of course this video has a ton of dislikes, hes speaking the truth. look at history, tell me how well humanity is doing...
Neil Madhood (9 days ago)
"i was wrong, Donald Trump is a great President" _Dennis Prager
Wilbur Cobb (9 days ago)
0:41 - 0:51 hold it! https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121024175240.htm . We found where empathy is processed, and we can shut it off, which changed people's moral code for the duration ... What now? Here is more on shutting down parts of the brain https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/news/brain-magnets-decrease-faith-in-god-religion-immigrants-a6695291.html
samuel liljeholm (9 days ago)
Kind and moral, by our standards maybe...
Graham Kennedy (9 days ago)
This hinges on what you mean when you say something is "wrong". When I say murder is wrong, what I mean is that "human wellbeing would be reduced if murder was considered to be acceptable behaviour". This is not, as you claim, "mere opinion". People would be measurably, palpably worse off if they murdered one another all the time. Indeed, people would rapidly cease to exist. Now perhaps you feel that I'm using the wrong moral metric - that "morality" means something other than what would increase human wellbeing. If so then you need to tell me what you think "morality" is and why it should concern me.
Rodney David Riley (9 days ago)
if there is no god it is important to still do your best in life. murder gets you no where, except behind bars. i am totally against hate and mental stigma. if you want to be someone, do it in a positive light regardless. there doesnt have to be a god to know what is morally right or pure. if something hurts someone, in my opinion it is wrong. many others will feel the same way. i am going to live the best moral life possible because i enjoy seeing people happy and helping others in life. i could go on about this for a very longtime. although i am having to leave soon. take care and i hope you guys figure out that what hurts others should be looked at as a tainted action and wrong. hate makes the world slowly decay, and it will destroy everything in our world... just saying!
Apollo Foxmask (10 days ago)
I have that sinking feeling that half the commenters didn't watch the full video as evidenced in part by how they claim that prager doesn't mention the crusades and jihads when at 2:10
cloud flores (10 days ago)
Indeed! Ppl are so ignorant now a days!
Burger Food (10 days ago)
Morality can be relative...
Henry Jordan (10 days ago)
I love the video very well explained, To the atheist before you comment think rationally first, if you don’t understand scripture don’t comment on it. Another point I’d like to make Is this explain why murder is wrong and why murdering for fun is wrong and why I should care about the “good” of the group but what makes me happy?
Henry Jordan (6 hours ago)
Yekkt have you read the context? I bet you haven’t. The people who they were commanded to kill were wicked they repented not from there wicked ways! Death by sin Come to Yeshua, he is the messiah, research the New Testament with a open mind not a closed mind
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Yeah, maybe i do not understand scripture hope you can help me a little bit: Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones. Deuteronomy 2:34 utterly destroyed the men and the women and the little ones. Deuteronomy 28:53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. I Samuel 15:3 slay both man and woman, infant and suckling. 2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child. 2 Kings 15:16 all the women therein that were with child he ripped up. Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished. Isaiah 13:18 They shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children. Lamentations 2:20 Shall the women eat their fruit, and children. Ezekiel 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children. Hosea 9:14 give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. Psalm 137:9 "blessed is he who dashes babies against a rock" The god of the bible is a perfect evil monster and has nothing to do with morality.
Rand Dickson (10 days ago)
Every comment is stupid, logicaphobic, emotional appeal and/or attack of character. LOL, seriously guys, read honest logical religious or atheistic writings and you will find this is legitimate.
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Can you name a single theist writing that includes at least a single rational argument? I don´t! But tell me, if the bible would say that murder is good, would you say that this makes it good? Is this what we should do? Yes or no and how do you know? Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones. Deuteronomy 2:34 utterly destroyed the men and the women and the little ones. Deuteronomy 28:53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. I Samuel 15:3 slay both man and woman, infant and suckling. 2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child. 2 Kings 15:16 all the women therein that were with child he ripped up. Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished. Isaiah 13:18 They shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children. Lamentations 2:20 Shall the women eat their fruit, and children. Ezekiel 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children. Hosea 9:14 give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. Psalm 137:9 "blessed is he who dashes babies against a rock"
Voice of Reason (10 days ago)
He's right, except for calling it judeo-christian rather than just christian.
Yekkt (11 hours ago)
Yeah he is right, except about everything he has ever said.
Mytty Dohun (11 days ago)
You....you realize religions were made up by humans right? I mean you are only proving that people know in their hearts murder is wrong and bad by using religion—CREATED BY PEOPLE.
A Av (11 days ago)
Murder and rape are both good
A Av (8 days ago)
Jay 01KC tasty treats and wet whistles. Rape is good and feels good to do.
Jay 01KC (9 days ago)
A Av: You say it in it’s bluntness. Do you have a context. Every gov has a context when they talk about things that cause devastations to
Anwyn Eisinger (12 days ago)
PragerU, thank you for making such amazing videos! Even on controversial topics that you know will not be taken well by most people due to their ignorance. Your videos help me understand topics and stand up to my liberal friends. It is hard being a conservative in a highly liberal college, and I hope you will keep making videos, even if the vast majority of people dislike hearing the truth.
Justin (13 days ago)
Code of Ur-Nammu, Hammurabi's Code, Kant's Categorical Imperative, Consequentialism, Utilitarianism, Epicurean Ethics, Virtue Ethics, Conscience, Social Contract, Original Position by John Rawls. Can't all of these can come to the conclusion that murder is wrong? Some of these are based on empathy, reason, or self-evident truths.
Pseudonym ? (13 days ago)
Wth is this guy’s problem. The simple fact is that if you don’t have morals, there’s no point in doing anything at all. That’s my philosophy as an atheist
Arthur Dent (13 days ago)
I know of many atheists that know murder is wrong, the problem is, it's not the atheism that knows, its the human in them. Our humanity tells us that murder is wrong, atheism cannot explain morality, the atheist says he or she can, but it's not their atheism that knows, its their humanity. Atheism on its own is incapable of determining right from wrong, because if we were not created, we have no purpose other than function, and no standard, and therefor, no true morality. Atheism also cannot account for humanity.
This is why we need god
Emmanuel Tac (13 days ago)
So I guess this the grounds on which America use to murder millions
no name (13 days ago)
https://youtu.be/1yZFkI292CA
Tucker Cobble (13 days ago)
"if the promise of divine reward is all that keeps you from murdering, raping, and harming others, you aren't god-fearing, you're evil."
Tucker Cobble (13 days ago)
this is painfully wrong. and painfully stupid. divine command theory of morality, even in the event that god exists, is easy to poke holes in, and is, demonstrably, contradictory. pragerU is a scam and a sham.
Jackson (14 days ago)
I like most of the videos on this channel but holy shit. This is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Rostos1978 (14 days ago)
Prager is 100% correct. If i put posion in your coffee, science can tell us HOW i killed you. Science though cannot tell us if killing you is right or wrong or good or evil.
jrischemery (15 days ago)
yeah it isn't objectively wrong because there isn't such thing as objective morality, however, the majority of the population, many without a god, agree that murder is subjectively wrong.
Allon Emery (15 days ago)
Ah atheists... Quick to insult, harass, and ridicule. Guess they think morality is some stupid concept.
Qian Yifan (16 days ago)
One of the most important reasons for me to leave the secular mindset and adopt Judeo-Christian values.
Boris Karajuan (16 days ago)
ahahahahahahah sorry PragerU but there is still Greek philosophy around "Euthyphro Dilemma" and a lot of other parts to support a morality with out a god
Bayu Akbar K (17 days ago)
Hitler is atheist? Wait, what?
Alexa Grant (17 days ago)
ew.
Mindrex (18 days ago)
God IS the Law
Kaneohe (18 days ago)
Breathtakingly stupid. Even the "morality" of a god is subjective. And then tell me, which version of god should I follow? How do you know which version is the right one? Again, just incredibly stupid. He's just another old white heterosexual man. Buh-bye!
Hungry Penguin (18 days ago)
Why can't morality be an opinion? Obviously, it is despicable that schools teach that murder for fun isn't wrong, but I don't believe in an absolute morality. Something I believe doesn't have to be what the person next to me believes, and I am okay with that. I don't believe that murder is always wrong and inexcusable. It depends on the case. You know this. If there is a justifiable reason such as self defense or protecting future victims from what someone is viable to do then by all means, do it. It is called necessary evil. In WWII, Hitler planned on making an atomic bomb, the allies stopped him by sinking a boat carrying the chemical components he would need. About 2 dozen civilians died. However, if he successfully made the bomb, the deaths would have increased exponentially. Now the world is a safer place. Morals aren't something that is stuck in concrete, and it shouldn't be. Now, we have laws to deter people from acting on their own when it comes to these heinous things, and instead we have professionals who know what they are doing, and are trusted to make the right choices. I agree that if we left what is right and wrong up to the individual, things could get out of hand, but in this society, we trust the individual to have a say in how the country is run. If murder is undeniably wrong, then why do we have capital punishment? Why do we have it here, and not in England? Is every person who administers a lethal injection a godless monster? How about the people who decide to put someone to death? Morality was never an absolute, because no matter what any religion stipulates, for the most part, we all have different values, and different morals.
Rick James (18 days ago)
Lol
Patrick2345454 (19 days ago)
Really, dude? How long has it been since you read the Bible? Judeo Christian values is simply a euphemism for cherry-picking your own sacred texts for the approval of man over God. You have abandoned your faith, just as surely as the most outspoken Atheists. The difference is that they admit where they stand. Weak men like you are the reason Islam is going to win out over Christianity.
Anurag B (19 days ago)
Unless ur a psychopath, everyone has empathy and innate human feeling/morality
The Bashful Turtle (20 days ago)
Lemme tell you something mind blowing (and controversal) if God is real, then murder isn't wrong. Let me explain. God has this weird "do as I say but not as I do" thing going on but basically, god kills. A looottt. In the old testament god killed all of Job's children, destroyed the city of Sodam, and flooded the entire earth thus making him a baby and a grandma killer. God even says he regrets flooding the earth and gives us a rainbow to remind us of how sorry he is except god knows all. He knew he would regret it and did it anyways. Not only that but if it's good enough for god it should be good enough for us. God sometimes justifies baby murdering by saying that Earth is suffering and that they'll all go to heaven, but if that's true then no one needed to come to earth in the first place. All of this brings rise to question of whether god does good things because he's good are things good because God does them. No one has an answer because either answer means God is either not that important or morals are arbitrary.
Alfredo sauce (20 days ago)
Morality is a social structure therefor murder is still wrong because if theres no god we will still build social structures around certain crimes, thats why atheists are mostly not murderers same with cristions and jews and mormans but religious beliefs for murder builds social structures around murder is good therefor you sir are biast, also whats with hitler and stalin they waged war so did “inosent” people but they wanted to kill the “evil people” so were all evil
Alfredo sauce (20 days ago)
This was ment for the if god is not real murder is not bad
Honeybea (20 days ago)
yikes
Aniket Dixit (20 days ago)
Well then, I guess murder isn’t wrong after all.
Don't Censor (20 days ago)
murder is morally wrong with or without a god to tell us it is wrong. And without an afterlife murder is far more reprehensible.
Olivia Tsi (20 days ago)
This totally makes sense. I totally understand you all for being outraged by it. It's something that one has to realize on their own in order to understand. There's nothing that Dennis Prager or anyone can say to make you see their perspective. I had a personal moment in which I saw what he means, so I have to give this a thumbs up. It seems as though he's trying to say "God is like a guy watching and he'll judge you if you disobey him or give you credit for obeying him, so you better please him to get your blessings," (like a carrot and a stick) but that's not what he's trying to say. That's a common misunderstanding about believers. There's nothing I can say to prove that this is makes sense, so I won't even try. All I'm saying is this is something you have to realize on your own in order for it to make sense.
Charles Labianco (20 days ago)
Your statement is illogical for several reasons. All gods are non-material. Non-material means does not exist. NEXT-we humans declared that murder is harmful, WRONG, to us and we will band together to make laws against it in order to reduce its occurrence. We enforce those laws with police or vigilante committees. So this logic contradicts your statement, which was simply a claim that was not supported by facts nor by logic. Reply to [email protected]
Midknight Rockruff (20 days ago)
What about the crusades when people murdered in the name of the "Judeo-christian god"
OverlordShamala (21 days ago)
This is a classic example of a Christian that has never read his bible. Probably ignores God ordering the Israelite to slaughter & pillage the original inhabitants of Canaan. God even gives instructions who to declare war, & whether you slaughter completely the inhabitants if they are neighboring villages or taking slaves if they are distant villages. One of my "favorite" stories is when the Israelite soldiers spare the young children & women of the Midian village they attacked & slaughtered all the men & all older youngsters. Moses is upset about it that his soldiers had shown mercy to these people. After haranguing his soldiers, Moses ordered them to kill all the mothers & their babies, all boys, & all maidens that were not virgin. But keep any maidens & young female children for themselves. Guess how they determined which were virgin & which were not? The morality of the bible is quite subjective... heck I even dare say the morality in the bible is, although I may be guilty of oversimplifying it: Might makes right! And I do mean it in the negative sense.
AEF _V (21 days ago)
This guy worships the devil and wants to mislead people about life/afterlife.
Your Mom (21 days ago)
PragerU is so pathetic. I can’t even begin to imagine how stupid and gullible anyone would have to be to take these videos seriously
msdm83 (21 days ago)
This is the intellectual standard one expects from Prager U.
Art Fusco (21 days ago)
Yes, morality is subjective. However, you can't give Judeo-Christian values credit for ending slavery when it was Judeo-Christian values that started slavery in the first place. As for there being moral confusion without these values, I don't think so. Those same values led to the Crusades and Conquest of the Americas, which ended in the deaths of entire civilizations and now those values are going onto a fascistic turn. I think moral confusion is celebrating the birth of Jesus, who was born of refugees, while cheering on the violence that is going on in the border right now because you don't want to help refugees... who are probably Christian. Some values.
Zoinks! (11 days ago)
+Art Fusco That doesn't answer my question. I wasn't asking you a question in regards to morality being objective, I was asking you if you understood why your argument was invalid and a non-sequitur as your conclusion did not follow. Please answer the question. Once you do, and concede that you have no real argument in support of ethical subjectivism, then I can get into explaining moral realism to you (and a better alternative to subjectivism).
Art Fusco (11 days ago)
+Zoinks! Sorry, I took so long to answer. Had to tend to life. But to answer your question: Uhh, no. Because your opinion of morality being objective is based on your own opinion, while we can both agree with my subjective opinion that everybody has a subjective view on morality. I'm still waiting for the alternatives, however.
Zoinks! (16 days ago)
+Art Fusco Firstly, do you agree that your argument is invalid since your conclusion doesn't follow? Do you see why your initial argument was flawed? And secondly, yes, disagreement DOES help support moral realism. I can get into that later on, but let's get this first point off of the table (you providing an argument for subjectivism).
Art Fusco (16 days ago)
+Zoinks! It certainly doesn't entail objectivity. So what are the other alternatives then?
Zoinks! (16 days ago)
+Art Fusco That's a non-sequitur. Just because certain humans follow different sets of moral systems, or lack thereof, have differing beliefs/perspectives on morality, it doesn't therefore entail subjectivity.
Ntig Dona (21 days ago)
i do believe that therebis good, but there is no evil! its not good and evil... its good and bad... a broken leg isn't evil, butbit is really bad.. an unincurilable disease isn't evil.. butbit is pretty terrible.. so the idea that there is no objective morality because mrder isn't evil is wrong because for one thing, that means there can me about things that can be proven to bebobjectively -wrong-. more inportantly though is murder objectively wrong? well i say it i... ifbyou don't mind dying, then you getting murdered could be somewhat be seen fine, but i'd like to think that most people arent ok with dying...band even that is enough for murder to be wrong..bbecausenpeople generally wantbto live! not only that, but unless you say there is an afterlife, even the act of taking life itself is wrong, even if its just a cute panda. finally.. how would you like having your friends and family be replaced with coffins? i mean, in thenpure hypathetical vacume where two people exists neither of whom mind not existing, it might not matter if one killed the other one kills the other fine, but not in the real world...
Dzago Productions (21 days ago)
What about empathy???
Arya Pourtabatabaie (22 days ago)
He’s confusing questions of fact and questions of value. Theft is “wrong”, but not in the same way that creationism is wrong. Same word, different meanings.
Will Burn (23 days ago)
dumb people desperately wanting the most simple answer to all of their questions.
ZaibatsuBLKN (23 days ago)
Truth to be told, this actually makes sense if you think about it. Now I know that I am going to be severely hated because I am Orthodox christian, but hear me out. I ain't gonna qoute anything from the Bible or any other religious source, rather I'll present you the facts that are based on a human nature. And that poses one question. Why do people believe in God? Long time before humans have started to believe in God, they were wild and agressive animals with almost no moral values except for their loved ones, but one day everything changed when humans started to ask themselves "what did I done wrong to deserve this" when they saw their loved one dying due normal natural causes such as wildfire, earthquake or even incaruble dissaese. They thought that something even higher than themselves is judging their behaviour. Now this is where the society will either accept that murder is morally wrong, or they will say that murder is right. If there was a society that killed and plundered thousands of other societies, without ever experiencing the pain and suffering throught their life, they're most likely gonna say that murder is right to commit on anyone else except ourselves. Now if there were those society that experienced heavy suffering but still managed to survive despite all of that, they would say that murder is wrong except on people who deserve it. Those are basically pagan vs civilized societies, but what connects is that the God told them what is right and what is wrong. Thats how functioning society we have today was created.
James DiSandro (24 days ago)
"What measurements could you provide... that prove that murder or rape or theft is wrong, the fact is- you can't" You can- suffering. Any person who has taken intro philosophy will tell you people (and there are people) who are secular but believe in objective morality will say that the root cause of that morality is the suffering that it inflicts on others. From a secular standpoint, murder or rape or theft is wrong simply because it causes suffering. This makes more sense than a religious argument because if you are going off the bible for your morals you cannot pick and choose the word of God. Commandment 2 is "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain" and commandment 5 is “Thou shalt not kill". By the logic of a religious-based morality, saying "oh my god" is just as sinful and wrong as taking a person's life. This video is arm-chair philosophy that has no right to be an introduction to moral relativism vs objectivism.
Thomas Simonsen (24 days ago)
Invisible boogetyboogeti in the sky = less murder.
TheBossBros73 (24 days ago)
Why murder is wrong: Because you wouldn’t want to be murdered. Done!
Igor (24 days ago)
I know earth is round because all the other planets, moons and stars are round.
Olivia Baklaton (25 days ago)
If half truths sound sweet for you, watch prageru. But if you seek the full truth, Prageru is out of use.
F Pierce (26 days ago)
OOF FAR RIGHT

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